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I expanded this article a bit beyond the realm of lolicon. Perhaps it should be trimmed, but I feel this article should grow past a list of lolis who happen to be hundreds of years old.

--[[User:Louslet|Louslet]] 13:10, 23 September 2007 (PDT)

:The "sexualization of childlike appearance" isn't a discussion of neotony. The article is about the retention of an undeveloped state past the usual age of maturity.  There's probably a discussion of neotony in culture to be had, but that isn't it, so I'm nixing it. Certainly the article needs to be expanded (hence the [[Template:Stub|Stub]] tag), but it needs to be on topic.

:A general comment: there's no need to use such pretentious language; keep in mind that may LAH users aren't native speakers (Hell, I'm an english major, and ''I'' had to look up "trope"). I tried to combine your definition with the previous one.  --[[User:Feather|feather]] 12:28, 24 September 2007 (PDT)

::Fair enough about the english comment. I've grown use to the academic Wikipedia-esque setting. Though the word "pretentious" there is kind of ironic.

::I don't agree that the sexualization of childlike appearance is an non-issue in this article. Take the legal discussion about lolicon. The US outlaws "drawings, sculptures, and pictures" of children that are "obscene." What is a drawing of a child? Sure, you can ''say'' Etna is 1470 years old, but is sexualization of her really legally or socially tolerated because of that?

::You deleted "In culture" because it was off topic. Somewhat. But Lolita fashion and pornography, which emphasize youth, youth, youth in legal adults - are related to the topic, be Nabokov's book off topic or no.
::--[[User:Louslet|Louslet]] 15:52, 24 September 2007 (PDT)

:::I know, pretnetious is a pretentious (and not quite accurate) word. But you get the point, so, moving on.

:::What you're talking it falls (in part) within the scope of the lolicon article (though I'm not sure we need a legal discussion on LAH Wiki . . .). It might warrant a mention, as it specifically relates to neotony.

:::Fashion that emphasizes youthful features isn't Neotony; Neotony is physical, not cosmetic. --[[User:Feather|feather]]

After all, the wiki was mainly created so we DON'T have to have any reference to pedophilia, and while originally, mentioning Nabokov and all that might seem like a good idea, let's not turn this into the discussion over the Lolikon article on wikipedia, ne. --[[User:Sat|Sat]] 05:04, 26 September 2007 (PDT)